Checking through my usual sources this morning and this Copenhagen story seems to have been missed by the mainstream (lame stream) media.
Lord Monckton barred from Copenhagen Conference- Pushed to the ground by security.
From The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley in Copenhagen at the SPPI blog:
Extracts
However, without warning the UN had capriciously decided that all but 300 of them were to be excluded from the conference today, and all but 90 would be excluded on the final day.
Of course, this being the inept UN, no one had bothered to notify those of the NGOs that were not true-believers in the UN’s camp. So Senator Steve Fielding of Australia and I turned up with a few dozen other delegates, to be left standing in the cold for a couple of hours while the UN laboriously worked out what to do with us.
In the end, they decided to turn us away, which they did with an ill grace and in a bad-tempered manner. As soon as the decision was final, the Danish police moved in. One of them began the now familiar technique of manhandling me, in the same fashion as one of his colleagues had done the previous day.
Once again, conscious that a police helicopter with a high-resolution camera was hovering overhead, I thrust my hands into my pockets in accordance with the St. John Ambulance crowd-control training, looked my assailant in the eye and told him, quietly but firmly, to take his hands off me.
He complied, but then decided to have another go. I told him a second time, and he let go a second time. I turned to go and, after I had turned my back, he gave me a mighty shove that flung me to the ground and knocked me out.
I came to some time later (not sure exactly how long), to find my head being cradled by my friends, some of whom were doing their best to keep the police thugs at bay while the volunteer ambulance-men attended to me.
I was picked up and dusted me off. I could not remember where I had left my telephone, which had been in my hand at the time when I was assaulted. I rather fuzzily asked where it was, and one of the police goons shouted, “He alleges he had a mobile phone.”
In fact, the phone was in my coat pocket, where my hand had been at the time of the assault. The ambulance crew led me away and laid me down under a blanket for 20 minutes to get warm, plying me with water and keeping me amused with some colourfully colloquial English that they had learned.
I thanked them for their kindness, left them a donation for their splendid service, and rejoined my friends. A very senior police officer then came up and asked if I was all right. Yes, I said, but no thanks to one of his officers, who had pushed me hard from behind when my back was turned and had sent me flying.
The police chief said that none of his officers would have done such a thing. I said that several witnesses had seen the incident, which I intended to report. I said I had hoped to receive an apology but had not received one, and would include that in my report. The policeman went off looking glum, and with good reason.
To assault an accredited representative of a conference your nation is hosting, and to do it while your own police cameramen are filming from above, and to do it without any provocation except my polite, non-threatening request that I should not be manhandled, is not a career-enhancing move, as that police chief is about to discover to his cost.
This incident, being pushed from behind by a uniformed police officer, could have resulted in a similar outcome for Lord Monckton as it did for Mr Ian Tomlinson, at the G20 Conference earlier in 2009 and clearly demonstrates the distance there is between law enforcement officers and the people they are suppose to protect.
Most of the comments were supportive of Lord Monckton apart from this little treasure from a prime example of the type of mindset behind the AGW agenda....
Jackson (19:51:43) :
Good. The “Lord” deserves the boot. The obviously mentally challenged “Lord” has no place at the discourse of serious people.
By the end of COP-15, the Brit Lord, this site — along with its spew of science and math illiteracy spiced with meanderings of intellectual terrorism– will be on the path to the dust bin of history. What a weatherman’s sideshow. Congrats, you have had your 15 minutes of fame.
There is now a global consensus in both science and politics that will only grow stronger as the world is set right. If the U.S. Senate tries to stand in the way, it will be swept away by a supermajority in 2012 or 2014.
So, deniers and wacko Brit “Lords:” Go buy your gold and guns and take your religion based agenda into hiding. When the time comes, those will be stripped away too. The gold must go to those who need and deserve it for the sins of the past and to secure climate justice for our future generations.
The IPCC and real scientists triumph because they produce valid analysis of real data. The skeptics and deniers (yes, AGW deniers ARE intellectually very similar to Holocaust deniers) will be shown scorn and eventually eliminated from meaningful discourse and society.
Despite the attempted smokescreen of “Climategate,” — which is (pr “was” because it is dead issue) nothing more than specious out-of-context use of stolen data and quotes by people without scientific insight or talent (and who have an impure political agenda) — it is time for the winners (the world) to laugh and gloat!
Naturally, people do respond to this type of troll
Kevin Cave (20:01:54) :
Jackson : your lack of civility and downright hostility are the perfect example of what all freedom-loving and tyranny-hating people need to fear. I’m glad the mods let your rant through.
If you think for one millisecond that “you” have somehow “won” , then I urge you to reconsider – if you are capable of this. There was no battle. There was no battle because you can’t fight a foregone conclusion – this being that there was going to be an agreement of some kind made regardless of the facts.
I can tell you now – this fight has not even begun yet.
barbara (20:06:37) :
jackson, thank you for a glimpse of where the world has been before.
There is nothing new under the sun except that which has been forgotten.
Thanks to what passes for school today.
Lord Monckton, persevere! And God bless you for your courage.
It is time for the United Nations to get out of my country, and be hosted by the despots it serves.
New york City should sell the prime real estate, and recoup some of the losses of 9/11 in terms of economic development.
Not to mention the fact that they would no longer have to put up with the arrogance of world “diplomats” in their city, a savings in itself.
This is the Grosse-Wannsee of our generation, and sorry kids, but it isn’t at ALL like the 60s some feel so cheated for missing.
It is more like the 30s, and many of you will die for nothing but a slogan.
evanmjones (20:15:56) :
Jackson (19:51:43)
Appalling.
Anti-intellectual, anti-freedom, pro-oppression, and profoundly unliberal, all in one.
Harry (20:24:58) :
@Jackon:
So…you really dont have any objections to police states as long as their brutality enforces your ideology. Is that pretty fair to assume?
“enlightened” “progressive” “socially moral”
Yep, that’s you guys alright.
wayne (20:48:11) :
Is this “Jackson” posting THE Lisa Perez Jackson heading of the Environment Protection Agency (EPA) of the United States?
If so, citizens, it’s high time to purge D.C.
Reed Coray (20:58:59) :
Jackson (19:51:43)
As I see it, Jackson has one of three objectives. (1) He/She meant his/her comment to be sarcasm. (2) He/She wants to stir up anti-AGW emotion so he/she submits a comment so outrageous it can’t help but anger skeptics–possibly to action. (3) He/She expressed his/her true feelings. If (1), he/she did a poor job. To be effective, sarcasm must be recognizable as sarcasm by the audience. If (2), I don’t believe his/her “means” justify the “end”. If (3), he/she is not very bright because his/her rant did way more harm than good to his/her cause. If I were handicapping his/her intent, I’d give it 10%-30%-60%.
J.Hansford (20:59:22) :
Jackson (19:51:43) : …. Thank you Jackson, for briefly lifting the AGW rock so that we may observe the foul little creatures that reside beneath…
You certainly are an unappealing, vicious little being aren’t you.
jackson (21:07:23) :
LOL!
1. I have Ph.D. in physics — but that would be arguing from authority (a logical fallacy) so I did not cite.
2. There is no means to an end — just wanting to celebrate a bit! Some fine organic wine is open.
3. And, btw… “handicapping” uses odds not percentages. A fine example of skeptics maths.
I do not doubt the sincerity of real scientists who test and refine CC data, but I resent the intrusion of lay people who castigate the life, work, honesty, and motives of hundreds and thousands of dedicated scientists..
It is you all who bring on the hate. I feel very sorry for you all, but the world needs serious people.
[REPLY - You are the erstwhile RW trolling under a fake name and email address. Therefore you self-accreditation is not credible. ~ Evan]
And so on.
What a self satisfied, condescending piece of Socialist Fascist drivel!
Wake Up People!
Don't allow these sorts of attitude take root or we might as well not bothered fighting WW2 and just invited the Fascists in by ferry.
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Lord Monckton barred from Copenhagen Conference- Pushed to the ground by security.
From The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley in Copenhagen at the SPPI blog:
Extracts
However, without warning the UN had capriciously decided that all but 300 of them were to be excluded from the conference today, and all but 90 would be excluded on the final day.
Of course, this being the inept UN, no one had bothered to notify those of the NGOs that were not true-believers in the UN’s camp. So Senator Steve Fielding of Australia and I turned up with a few dozen other delegates, to be left standing in the cold for a couple of hours while the UN laboriously worked out what to do with us.
In the end, they decided to turn us away, which they did with an ill grace and in a bad-tempered manner. As soon as the decision was final, the Danish police moved in. One of them began the now familiar technique of manhandling me, in the same fashion as one of his colleagues had done the previous day.
Once again, conscious that a police helicopter with a high-resolution camera was hovering overhead, I thrust my hands into my pockets in accordance with the St. John Ambulance crowd-control training, looked my assailant in the eye and told him, quietly but firmly, to take his hands off me.
He complied, but then decided to have another go. I told him a second time, and he let go a second time. I turned to go and, after I had turned my back, he gave me a mighty shove that flung me to the ground and knocked me out.
I came to some time later (not sure exactly how long), to find my head being cradled by my friends, some of whom were doing their best to keep the police thugs at bay while the volunteer ambulance-men attended to me.
I was picked up and dusted me off. I could not remember where I had left my telephone, which had been in my hand at the time when I was assaulted. I rather fuzzily asked where it was, and one of the police goons shouted, “He alleges he had a mobile phone.”
In fact, the phone was in my coat pocket, where my hand had been at the time of the assault. The ambulance crew led me away and laid me down under a blanket for 20 minutes to get warm, plying me with water and keeping me amused with some colourfully colloquial English that they had learned.
I thanked them for their kindness, left them a donation for their splendid service, and rejoined my friends. A very senior police officer then came up and asked if I was all right. Yes, I said, but no thanks to one of his officers, who had pushed me hard from behind when my back was turned and had sent me flying.
The police chief said that none of his officers would have done such a thing. I said that several witnesses had seen the incident, which I intended to report. I said I had hoped to receive an apology but had not received one, and would include that in my report. The policeman went off looking glum, and with good reason.
To assault an accredited representative of a conference your nation is hosting, and to do it while your own police cameramen are filming from above, and to do it without any provocation except my polite, non-threatening request that I should not be manhandled, is not a career-enhancing move, as that police chief is about to discover to his cost.
This incident, being pushed from behind by a uniformed police officer, could have resulted in a similar outcome for Lord Monckton as it did for Mr Ian Tomlinson, at the G20 Conference earlier in 2009 and clearly demonstrates the distance there is between law enforcement officers and the people they are suppose to protect.
Most of the comments were supportive of Lord Monckton apart from this little treasure from a prime example of the type of mindset behind the AGW agenda....
Jackson (19:51:43) :
Good. The “Lord” deserves the boot. The obviously mentally challenged “Lord” has no place at the discourse of serious people.
By the end of COP-15, the Brit Lord, this site — along with its spew of science and math illiteracy spiced with meanderings of intellectual terrorism– will be on the path to the dust bin of history. What a weatherman’s sideshow. Congrats, you have had your 15 minutes of fame.
There is now a global consensus in both science and politics that will only grow stronger as the world is set right. If the U.S. Senate tries to stand in the way, it will be swept away by a supermajority in 2012 or 2014.
So, deniers and wacko Brit “Lords:” Go buy your gold and guns and take your religion based agenda into hiding. When the time comes, those will be stripped away too. The gold must go to those who need and deserve it for the sins of the past and to secure climate justice for our future generations.
The IPCC and real scientists triumph because they produce valid analysis of real data. The skeptics and deniers (yes, AGW deniers ARE intellectually very similar to Holocaust deniers) will be shown scorn and eventually eliminated from meaningful discourse and society.
Despite the attempted smokescreen of “Climategate,” — which is (pr “was” because it is dead issue) nothing more than specious out-of-context use of stolen data and quotes by people without scientific insight or talent (and who have an impure political agenda) — it is time for the winners (the world) to laugh and gloat!
Naturally, people do respond to this type of troll
Kevin Cave (20:01:54) :
Jackson : your lack of civility and downright hostility are the perfect example of what all freedom-loving and tyranny-hating people need to fear. I’m glad the mods let your rant through.
If you think for one millisecond that “you” have somehow “won” , then I urge you to reconsider – if you are capable of this. There was no battle. There was no battle because you can’t fight a foregone conclusion – this being that there was going to be an agreement of some kind made regardless of the facts.
I can tell you now – this fight has not even begun yet.
barbara (20:06:37) :
jackson, thank you for a glimpse of where the world has been before.
There is nothing new under the sun except that which has been forgotten.
Thanks to what passes for school today.
Lord Monckton, persevere! And God bless you for your courage.
It is time for the United Nations to get out of my country, and be hosted by the despots it serves.
New york City should sell the prime real estate, and recoup some of the losses of 9/11 in terms of economic development.
Not to mention the fact that they would no longer have to put up with the arrogance of world “diplomats” in their city, a savings in itself.
This is the Grosse-Wannsee of our generation, and sorry kids, but it isn’t at ALL like the 60s some feel so cheated for missing.
It is more like the 30s, and many of you will die for nothing but a slogan.
evanmjones (20:15:56) :
Jackson (19:51:43)
Appalling.
Anti-intellectual, anti-freedom, pro-oppression, and profoundly unliberal, all in one.
Harry (20:24:58) :
@Jackon:
So…you really dont have any objections to police states as long as their brutality enforces your ideology. Is that pretty fair to assume?
“enlightened” “progressive” “socially moral”
Yep, that’s you guys alright.
wayne (20:48:11) :
Is this “Jackson” posting THE Lisa Perez Jackson heading of the Environment Protection Agency (EPA) of the United States?
If so, citizens, it’s high time to purge D.C.
Reed Coray (20:58:59) :
Jackson (19:51:43)
As I see it, Jackson has one of three objectives. (1) He/She meant his/her comment to be sarcasm. (2) He/She wants to stir up anti-AGW emotion so he/she submits a comment so outrageous it can’t help but anger skeptics–possibly to action. (3) He/She expressed his/her true feelings. If (1), he/she did a poor job. To be effective, sarcasm must be recognizable as sarcasm by the audience. If (2), I don’t believe his/her “means” justify the “end”. If (3), he/she is not very bright because his/her rant did way more harm than good to his/her cause. If I were handicapping his/her intent, I’d give it 10%-30%-60%.
J.Hansford (20:59:22) :
Jackson (19:51:43) : …. Thank you Jackson, for briefly lifting the AGW rock so that we may observe the foul little creatures that reside beneath…
You certainly are an unappealing, vicious little being aren’t you.
jackson (21:07:23) :
LOL!
1. I have Ph.D. in physics — but that would be arguing from authority (a logical fallacy) so I did not cite.
2. There is no means to an end — just wanting to celebrate a bit! Some fine organic wine is open.
3. And, btw… “handicapping” uses odds not percentages. A fine example of skeptics maths.
I do not doubt the sincerity of real scientists who test and refine CC data, but I resent the intrusion of lay people who castigate the life, work, honesty, and motives of hundreds and thousands of dedicated scientists..
It is you all who bring on the hate. I feel very sorry for you all, but the world needs serious people.
[REPLY - You are the erstwhile RW trolling under a fake name and email address. Therefore you self-accreditation is not credible. ~ Evan]
And so on.
What a self satisfied, condescending piece of Socialist Fascist drivel!
Wake Up People!
Don't allow these sorts of attitude take root or we might as well not bothered fighting WW2 and just invited the Fascists in by ferry.
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